Talk (Homosexuality)

Talk Introduction

 The Bible bit

Conclusion

"Surely you know that the people who do wrong will not inherit God's kingdom. Do not be fooled. Those who sin sexually, worship idols, take part in adultery, those who are make prostitutes or men who have sexual relations with other men, those who steal, are greedy, get drunk, lie about others or rob - these people will not inherit God's kingdom. In the past, some of you were washed clean. You were made holy, and you were made right with God in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God"

The Bible references

"Two angels came to Sodom…Lot said, 'Sirs, please come to my house and spend the night…', so they agreed and went to the house…Lot prepared a meal for them…before bedtime, men both young and old and from every part of Sodom surrounded Lot's house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the two men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so we can have sexual relations with them.'. Lot went outside to them, closing the door behind him. He said, 'No, my brothers! Do not do this evil thing. Look! I have tow daughters who have never slept with a man. I will give them to you….' The men around the house answered, 'Move out of the way!'…They started pushing him back and were ready to break down the door. But the two men staying with Lot opened the door…they struck those outside the door with blindness, so the men…could not find the door. [latter…] The two men said to Lot, '…we are about to destroy this city. The Lord has heard of all the evil that is here, so he has sent us to destroy it.'…The Lord sent a rain of burning sulphur down from the sky on Sodom and Gomorrah and destroyed those cities…"

Many people consider this passage to be about abuse / gang rape and not just homosexuality - would the outcome have been the same if the angels were two men?

"You must not have sexual relations with a man as you would a woman. This is a hateful sin."

"If a man has sexual relations with another man as a man does with a woman, these two men have done a hateful sin. They must be put to death. They have brought it on themselves."

1 Samuel 18:1 Page 262 "When David finished talking with Saul, Jonathan felt very close to David. He loved David as much as he loved himself."

2 Samuel 1:26 Page 275 "I cry for you, my brother Jonathan. I enjoyed your friendship so much. Your love to me was wonderful, better than the love of women."

"God's anger is shown from heaven against all the evil and wrong things people do…because they did these things, God left them and let them do their sinful way, wanting only to do evil. As a result, they became full of sexual sin, using their bodies wrongly with each other…Women stopped having natural sex and began having sex with other women. In the same way, men stopped having natural sex and began wanting each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and in their bodies they received the punishment for those wrongs…"

"Surely you know that the people who do wrong will not inherit God's kingdom. Do not be fooled. Those who sin sexually, worship idols, take part in adultery, those who are make prostitutes or men who have sexual relations with other men, those who steal, are greedy, get drunk, lie about others or rob - these people will not inherit God's kingdom. In the past, some of you were washed clean. You were made holy, and you were made right with God in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God"

Note how homosexual acts is lists equally with other sins, and the fact we can be "made right"

"…the law is not made for good people…it is for people who against God and are sinful, who are not holy and have no religion, who kill their fathers and mothers, who murder, who take part in sexual sins, who have sexual relations with people of the same sex, who sell slaves, who tell lies, who speak falsely and who do anything against the true teaching of God."

Research

Many teenagers go through a stage where they wonder, "Am I gay?" Things they've done - holding hands with a friend of the same sex, looking at or touching each other's genitals - may make them worry. But these activities are normal while growing up. Many boys and girls are attracted to members of their own sex during puberty.

 

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